nazi walther ppk

[chgolawman]

purshase nazi walther ppk with holster all numbers correct, need to know if anyone is knowledgeable as to its origin eg: military branch, rank, possible value. Has various stamps on it and eagle with a c under it. thanks

[CoorsLightGuy]

Rugerwheels is probably the guy you need to talk to. He's very knowledgeable on Lugers and most german pistols.

I'm sure he'll check in soon and see this. Do you have any pics?

[Rockman]

May I ask why this is in the US Weapons page? No harm intended.

[CoorsLightGuy]

Cut him some slack........He's a rookie.;)

However, good point. I'll move it to the proper area.

[rugerwheels]

I assume the Eagle C is on the left frame behind the trigger. That would make it a police pistol (military mark same place would be Eagle 359 or Eagle WaA359). Serial number should be 1000554-1006697 (very rare) or 200735k-430070k. On the right side of the slide under the ejection port and on the bolt should be either a Crown N or an Eagle N. Let us know about all of the above and the color of the plastic grips and we can tell you more about this pistol. A photo or two, description of condition of gun and holster, and markings on holster will permit a ballpark estimate of the value.
Don

[CoorsLightGuy]

I told ya Rugerwheels was the guy to talk to.

[stash3630]

I assume the Eagle C is on the left frame behind the trigger. That would make it a police pistol (military mark same place would be Eagle 359 or Eagle WaA359). Serial number should be 1000554-1006697 (very rare) or 200735k-430070k. On the right side of the slide under the ejection port and on the bolt should be either a Crown N or an Eagle N. Let us know about all of the above and the color of the plastic grips and we can tell you more about this pistol. A photo or two, description of condition of gun and holster, and markings on holster will permit a ballpark estimate of the value.
Don


Don,

My Grandfather had seven German generals surrender to him personally near the end of WWII; one was commanding an army of 90,000 men. He consficated a lot of incredible stuff off of them; binoculars, officer dress knives and swords, and among other things a beautiful PPK. It has the original eagle over N as verified by this page:

http://www.whog.org/ppk/markings.htm

There is no date code(s) or markings on the bore or right of the slide other than the two identical eagle's over N. I'd rather not put the serial number up but here is the beginning and end of it: 27XXX8 K is stamped on the frame. it is all black with a silver bore and brown plastic grips.

Can you tell me when this pistol was made? Its in excellent working condition, has the original holster and magazines, and has only gone from the general to my Grandfather to my Dad. I will try and post some pics, but I think it is at the very least a 'B' grade. I've seen some 'B' HKP7's that were no where near as nice as this. I'd be interested in how much its worth, but only out of my own curiosity. It will never leave the family, but I'd like to be able to know its history a lot better. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

PS: If I were to try and purchase a modern version of this pistol, what would I be looking at? Just a new PPK .32? Are the new PPK .32's basically unchanged from my Grandfather's antique other than being made by S&W? How much would one expect to pay for one? I've seen a few for under $500 and my Dad and I would like to each get a new one in hommage of his father.

PPS: Also, you may find it interesting that my Grandfather couldn't believe that after the Generals were taken into custody, they were picked up in USA limousines along with their numerous pieces of fine luggage.

[rugerwheels]

Welcome to this Forum. An interesting story re your grandfather's capture of generals. Was he also a general? I hope he chronicled the history for his descendants. Regarding your PPK, really need more information plus photos to provide good answers to your questions. I assume it has an Eagle over 359 on the left frame and left slide. It should also have the serial number on the right slide as well as the right frame, otherwise the last three digits of the serial number should be electropencilled on the slide internally opposite the ejection port. If not, disregard the following and let us have more info. S/N 27XXX8K if E/359 would have been made in 1940 for the German military. Estimated production was 3,500 which would make it relatively rare. Did your grandfather obtain and keep capture papers for the pistol? Does it have a flat magazine bottom or a brown finger extension (if the latter add about $400 to the value). Without photos and a better description of the condition an estimate of overall value is difficult but certainly in the $1-2,000 range and higher with magazine finger extension and matching holster. If you have a holster with photos and markings we could give you some info about it. You can also find current auctions at www.gunbroker.com and www.auctionarms.com (search "Walther PPK" and "Nazi PPK"). For an idea of condition, click on the thumbnail below to see an early PPk in my collection which is in 99% condition.

For information on a new PPK start with the following website where you will find prices and a dealer locator. Hope this helps.
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=13152&storeId=10002&categoryId=43802&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=43326&top_category=43326&training=

[Dafire_chief]

i gotta PPK 7.65 my grandfather got it from his general that took it off a prisoner its got the crown N on it and serial number is 257051 k no finger grip on the clip can u tell me what year it was made and a general price range def not trying to sell just interested in the history of the gun thanks!!!

[rugerwheels]

For Dafire Chief, welcome to this Forum. Some other members may add to my comments on your Walther PPK. I believe your pistol was very likely made in 1939 or possibly very early in 1940. It was manufactured as a non-military version and as such would not have military acceptance stamps. Assuming the prisoner was military this is a bit unusual but not unheard of. The military versions generally have greater value. A guess as to the value would be just that without a description of condition and photos. It is good to hear that you are planning to keep it in your family. I would suggest you record for future generations whatever you know and can find out about the circumstances of your grandfather capturing it. We would certainly welcome seeing some photos.